tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4434842591971703006.post6673336167815290752..comments2023-05-11T04:57:33.365-07:00Comments on Trees For Lunch: Oklahoma is OKUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4434842591971703006.post-71437532125672401092010-05-04T00:13:15.936-07:002010-05-04T00:13:15.936-07:00Sorry JD ....I do honestly try to abide by your wi...Sorry JD ....I do honestly try to abide by your wishes,and keep posts short<br /><br />Doesnt always work out for me.Gandolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02624178234332819107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4434842591971703006.post-55918510819165129022010-05-04T00:07:51.978-07:002010-05-04T00:07:51.978-07:00CA said..."It is so very unfortunate, horribl...CA said..."It is so very unfortunate, horrible in fact, that people look upon a child, not as a human being with rights, and dignity, but as a "choice." (Head shake.) "<br /><br />But part of the dignity can also be about making the choice, CA.<br /><br />Im personally a pro life person and i certainly dont do much rejoicing when any abortions take place....But then i doubt many people do much rejoicing with matters of abortions, specially most of all most women who sadly happen to become involved in them.<br /><br />But it is not always such a clear cut easy choice,there is much to be considdering.And very many differing situations involved.<br /><br />Faithful folks might suggest look its easy,simply dont have abortions.The choice should always be pro life,and somehow the child will be fine.There is people many whom are christians always willing to adopt if need be.<br /><br />How ever this is not always such a great choice for the child.Some may be adopted by nasty people including nasty folks of faith,and im quite sure there is a number of people who have infact suffered much more in the long run,than maybe they would have had to, had they simply been aborted.<br /><br />Believe it or not i can honestly say im one person who if i had had the choice, considdering what a struggle my life became,would serriously considder maybe much prefering abortion.Abortion id say is far much less longterm pain and suffering, than endless sadness pain and many sleepless nights caused by trauma experienced though experiences caused by being born into abusive faith, that led to me having problems of P.T.S.D. along with other on going problems that have made life kinda like a type of hell ! on earth.<br /><br />And look folks, facing serrious depression that has been caused by past experiences, and cannot simply be cured by any pills or psychologists, is no easy road when its often been paved with facing thoughts of suicide along the way.<br /><br />But i didnt have that choice to make of pro life verses abortion,i relied on the choice of my parents and specially the choices of my mother.<br /><br />So its just not a matter of always being quite as clear cut as some would maybe like to think/suggest it might be.<br /><br />Naturally of course id say sure! its far better if people simply dont get pregnant without planning and thinking about it enough.But in saying that im not about to lay all blame on my parents, who infact were also just pawns of certain situations in life that they happeded to inherit.And im not about to lay all blame on my parents for maybe not always making such great choices and decisions.<br /><br />Most people honestly do wish to do their best.Life just isnt always something thats always quite so equal for everyone is it.And also being humans we can make mistakesGandolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02624178234332819107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4434842591971703006.post-76210010621464472512010-05-02T16:09:53.941-07:002010-05-02T16:09:53.941-07:00"a child"
It's not a child."a child" <br /><br />It's not a child.Hunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09285258053111697778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4434842591971703006.post-70475656207137876212010-05-02T04:46:09.848-07:002010-05-02T04:46:09.848-07:00Hi JC,
Yes, you are right. People like tinkbel3 ...Hi JC,<br /><br />Yes, you are right. People like tinkbel3 just don't get it. How someone like tinkbell can read what you wrote, then turn around and beat the drumb of "A women's choice" I just don't understand. <br /><br />It is so very unfortunate, horrible in fact, that people look upon a child, not as a human being with rights, and dignity, but as a "choice." (Head shake.)The Catholic Apologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11346882586629450512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4434842591971703006.post-70048039042379242332010-05-01T14:16:04.032-07:002010-05-01T14:16:04.032-07:00I have nothing to say about any of this. Fact is, ...I have nothing to say about any of this. Fact is, a woman's choice is nobody's business but her own. I am happy that I live in a country where we respect the right of the individual to decide what is best for them.tinkbell13https://www.blogger.com/profile/03322413631736929191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4434842591971703006.post-56238359801421483732010-05-01T06:18:31.716-07:002010-05-01T06:18:31.716-07:00But according to the Bible the soul is breath so u...<i>But according to the Bible the soul is breath so until a baby is born it has no soul</i><br /><br />Yet I'm of the opinion that life begins at conception. In support of this stance, check this out...<br /><br />"Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me" Psalm 51:5<br /><br />And also...<br /><br />"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.” Jeremiah 1:5<br /><br />I would agree with my pastor that I wouldnt want <i>any</i> abortions taking PLACE. However, if pragmatically, the best that could be dne would be a ban on any procedures after the first trimester, then that's what I would have to accept.<br /><br />One other thing, don't accept the aternative history/Hollywood myth of women dying <i>en masse</i> during a "Backalley Coathanger Abortion" myth. It's been most thoroughly debunked.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.nysun.com/new-york/abortion-myth-perpetuated/60958/" rel="nofollow">Link</a>J Curtishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12746127431922685446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4434842591971703006.post-66764888301647074492010-05-01T00:16:39.258-07:002010-05-01T00:16:39.258-07:00But according to the Bible the soul is breath so u...But according to the Bible the soul is breath so until a baby is born it has no soul.<br />Which is one of the reasons why God doesn't consider abortion murder.<br />"The life is in the blood." That's obviously wrong. Sperm is alive. It has life. No one denies this.Hunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09285258053111697778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4434842591971703006.post-59270598591525688512010-04-30T23:02:36.768-07:002010-04-30T23:02:36.768-07:00JD said,
"Can we try to arrive at some sort o...JD said,<br />"Can we try to arrive at some sort of middle ground that many of us can agree on concerning abortion procedures?"<br /><br />I am very surprised you would be willing to compromise, unlike Photogr:<br /><br />He states:<br />"There is no common ground on aborton. Once there is a heartbeat, you have a human being created."<br /><br />First of all, the blastocyst is a glob of cells that does not even have blood until about 14 days. The bible states on several occasions that "The life is in the blood."<br /><br />Next, at 14 days there is a microscopic amount of blood and the proto heart started pumping about 21 days.Froggiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12972110380349786742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4434842591971703006.post-70396792331671865772010-04-30T20:27:11.444-07:002010-04-30T20:27:11.444-07:00I see what you mean photogr. It's a passionat...I see what you mean photogr. It's a passionate issue on both sides of it.<br /><br />I thought my pastor had an interesting take on it. He stated that he really doesnt want any abortion procedures. However, if he was in a position to actually affect the law, like an elected State Representative, and the best he could possibly do would be a ban on all procedures after the first trimester, then he would be pragmatic and accept that. Knowing of course, full well he did the best he could under the circumstances.<br /><br />George W. Bush <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,102244,00.html" rel="nofollow">actually signed</a> a ban on barbaric partial birth abortions.<br /><br />Obama has....<br /><br />"In an executive order, ...officially scrapped the Mexico City Policy that protected taxpayers from involvement in overseas abortions for eight years. Now, Obama will send hundreds of millions of dollars to groups that aggressively promote abortions on a worldwide scale." <a href="http://www.lifenews.com/nat4781.html" rel="nofollow">Link</a><br /><br />God help us all.J Curtishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12746127431922685446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4434842591971703006.post-63326999169694349452010-04-30T14:28:53.907-07:002010-04-30T14:28:53.907-07:00OOPS Sorry. It was not on you tube.
Here is the ...OOPS Sorry. It was not on you tube. <br /><br />Here is the link:<br /><br />http://www.tangle.com/view_video?viewkey=5df82b8fe869c68cf7ebphotogrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05149737419546300220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4434842591971703006.post-3751466028260739002010-04-30T14:22:06.250-07:002010-04-30T14:22:06.250-07:00JD:
There is no common ground on aborton. Once th...JD:<br /><br />There is no common ground on aborton. Once there is a heartbeat, you have a human being created. I am pro life and make no apologies for that.<br /><br />Abortions should only be considered in life threatening situations, incest, or forceable rape at a very early stage. Not after we have a hearbeat. At 22weeks ( nearly 6 months), it is just plain murder.<br /><br />This brings to mind a story about a Gianna Jessen whose mother decided to abort her at 22 weeks. Surprisingly, Gianna Jensen failed to quitely die from the abortion attempt. Her story is certainly heart warming. You can find two videos she made on You Tube by just typing in Gianna Jessen in the search column.photogrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05149737419546300220noreply@blogger.com